Minutes: December 15, 2011
Mr. Charles Bates, HPC Chair, called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
Statement of Compliance
Pursuant to the Open Public Meetings Act, Chapter 231 P.L., 1975, adequate notice as defined in Section 3D of Chapter 231, P.L. 1975, had been forwarded to the New Jersey Herald on June 22, 2011. Notice is also posted on the bulletin board and filed with the office of the Township Clerk.
Roll Call of Members
|Carol Gunn Kadish||NP|
November 17, 2011 Meeting
Mr. Bates reported the Town Council was going to perform the second reading of the Glenwood Baptist Cemetery application on December 12, 2011, and, subsequent to that, it was going to be presented to the Land Use Board for Master Plan purposes.
Motion: Mr. Borisuk made a motion to approve of the above minutes. Mr. Hanke seconded the motion. Ms. Cheadle abstained from voting. All the rest were in favor.
Meeting Opened to the Public
No one came forward.
Closed Meeting to the Public
Lot and Block Numbers for Applications
Mr. Bates said that he has made every attempt to find out where the information is located for the lot and block numbers for the list of historic properties. All of which were originally on a thumb drive. Ms. Cheadle will reach out to Kevin Cantaldi with regard to this matter. Mr. Bates reported that the town clerk, Susan Nelson, found that some of the lot and block numbers were incorrect on the applications. Mr. Bates has since corrected them. He asked that the HPC members double check their information when filling out applications.
Chris Hanke advised this is still in process, no changes.
Sharon Cheadle reported that the realtor could not give her any information about the contact information for the owner but that they would call the owner and get back to her. She has not heard back from the realtor or the owner
Sharon Cheadle reported that there have been time issues preventing she and Ms. Kadish to get together to go on the site visits for the 6 cemeteries proposed to be memorialized. Mr. Bates advised the mayor when he asked, that there are probably about 45 cemeteries in town and there may be 10-12 more cemeteries that have been plowed under in farmers’ fields that will never be found.
Historic Property List
Mr. Bates suggested proposing a historic district in the area around Route 565 in Glenwood. This would cover numbers 1805-1861 on the list of historic properties. He does not know if this can be done under one application. Mr. Hanke suggested doing a metes and bounds description of the area and what lies within those metes and bounds lies within the historic criteria of the district. Mr. Hanke said another area to consider for a historic district would be from Route 515 almost to the border of New York State.
The area up by the Glenwood Mill was discussed as it includes the old railroad depot, historic structures and historic dams. Mr. Borisuk added that this was originally the main part of old Vernon—peach country. Mr. Hanke added that the late Mr. Capro took him to a granite mine in that area and the granite from that mine was used in building the Paterson courthouse and Grant’s Tomb on the Hudson.
Mr. Bates discussed his dissatisfaction with the size of the historic signs. He asked for permission from the HPC members to speak with the sign manufacturer to inquire about a bigger, better sign, within the budget constraints, to be used for future signs other than the South Dakota design 24 x 18. The members approved.
Simonson House Sign
Mr. Bates reported that the stanchion was installed in the ground at the site. However, the sign has not been delivered yet. When the sign comes in, an unveiling ceremony will be scheduled for a Saturday morning.
Mr. Hanke read in the ordinance with regard to historic districts, the following excerpt:
The Historic Commission is responsible for the establishment of an historic district in the Township of Vernon shall be initiated and implemented in the same way as for historic landmarks with the exception that is to such district the approval of the planning board following public notices required by law, shall be required before submission to the township committee.
He went on to add that with regard to any memorialized site, there is a penalty in the ordinance for damaging the property. He read the following excerpt from the ordinance:
Any person who shall undertake an activity in _______ without obtaining approval from the commission shall be deemed to be in violation of this ordinance and shall be subject to the penalties set forth in paragraph 13, part 1, below.
Mr. Laabs commented that as some of this information is filtered out to the public, interest is created in the public to know more. Perhaps this would give rise to various groups doing further research. How would this research be accomplished? Mr. Hanke advised that most of his information comes by word-of-mouth.
Mr. Borisuk commented that the area be called a historic area, not district, so it doesn’t have to follow the ordinance.
LU #11-11-18: Toyes Real Estate, Preliminary Major Subdivision, Use Variance and Interpretation
The HPC members reviewed the above applications and determined that there is no historical significance in connection with these sites.
Mr. Borisuk made a motion to adjourn the HPC meeting at 8:24 p.m. Ms. Cheadle seconded the motion. All were in favor.
Transcribed by Cynthia Davis on January 18, 2012.